Too Clever By Half - How Vision and Now NPA were defeated by smart voters

More than ten years after this blog was put on indefinite suspension, I feel the irresistible need to begin again.

The telling of this tale will involve exposing the ugly underbelly of developer driven municipal politics, but should also should give us all hope that the Vancouver electorate is capable of intelligent thoughtful decision making in rejecting business as usual. Both the fake left party Vision Vancouver and the fake non-partisan party NPA thought that they could vote split and triangulate their way into saving their power, and the Vancouver electorate saw right through their games.
The by-election of 2017 and the municipal election of 2018 are excellent examples of the power structure being defeated by smart voters making smart choices.

In 2010 I moved back to my beloved home country of Canada, and settled in a city that was new to me... Vancouver.

The telling of the many adventures I have had in this last decade will have to wait... for now I must put down my thoughts on a municipal political elite that has become far too clever by half.

To tell this story, I must go back in time to the by-election of 2017.

In the lead up to this election, it was clear that Vision Vancouver was in trouble.

The municipal political juggernaut of the last ten years, Vision had dominated the mayor-ship and city council since Robertson first won in 2008.

OK, lets go back in time a bit more. We need to know where Vision came from, and why they got into so much trouble. Here is a bit more historical context...

Vision Vancouver broke off from the REAL progressive municipal party - COPE - in 2002. The Coalition of Progressive Electors had just won an enormous victory. Larry Campbell had defeated his NPA opponent by nearly 2 to 1. Vancouver seemed well on its was towards an independent progressive council that would guide it through the beginning of the new turbulent century.

Who did they defeat in 2002?

The NPA - Non-Partisan Association - had never made any bones about its alliance with big developers. Excessive and unnecessary tower projects that largely destroyed Vancouver as a livable city in False Creek, Yale Town, and the West End were all begun under the previous decades of NPA rule. The NPA had non-partisan in its name, but unlike TEAM in the decades before who had actually fought for a livable Vancouver and honestly attempted to be non-partisan - the NPA was a developer driven party from start to finish.

Then came COPE in 2002. Despite completely dominating city council and electing a massively popular new mayor, the honeymoon did not last long. Infighting started almost immediately within this new council.

In 2004, Larry Campbell and Councillors Jim Green, Raymond Louie and Tim Stevenson made their deal with the devil. This group quickly became known as "COPE-lite" and made deal after deal with other developer friendly Councillors to push through massive tower development and the destruction of Vancouver that we see today.
In the end, Larry Campbell oversaw the towering unaffordable edifice constructed on the grounds of the old Woodwards complex which is now universally viewed as a failed opportunity at urban renewal. Instead it became a massive edifice of force-able neighbourhood cleansing. Vision Vancouver would make big business out of this kind of forced relocation of the poor.

Vision Vancouver WAS COPE-lite.

Vision Vancouver never was a real party of the left.

They would have to wait a full election cycle before gaining power back from NPA, and in doing so they created the future that COPE was created to prevent - the wholesale giveaway of Vancouver land to anyone with a backhoe to build tower after tower after tower of unaffordable properties., and to displace as many low income people as they could in the drive to create more homeless residents.

Although Robertson's singular campaign promise of 2008 was "ending homelessness", Vision did nothing to build affordable housing, did nothing to alter or increase services for homeless people, did nothing to curb the avarice of condo developers but instead continued to green light any development plan anywhere in the city with no requirements for affordability.

Robertson was a elected again in 2011 in a rout against Susan Anton from the NPA. Why would developers risk giving their money to the NPA when they had a perfectly positioned fake left party that was going to give them all the keys to the kingdom anyway?

Vision somehow maintained its position as the only choice on the left by extremely effective and Machiavellian green washing. Bike lanes and posturing against pipelines became a proxy for real progressive values.
It was OK to displace poor renters. It was OK destroy neighbourhood after neighbourhood as long as Gregor was pro-bike and against global warming.

Vision Vancouver thought that this would fool all of the people all of the time, and so did their big corporate donors.
Tides Canada - a "non-profit" with ties to big American eco-business interests created Gregor out of whole cloth as a champion of green washing, and they got exactly what they wanted. All their developer buddies flooded in to gut this beautiful city and build this most unaffordable playground for the wealthy.

Gregor coasted and coasted - for ten years - offering only the bare minimum of lip service to progressive issues until finally, BC politics was changed forever by the election of the NDP in the spring of 2017.
Shortly after being elected, the NDP, with the help of their Green partners, enacted a piece of singular legislation that banned both corporate and union donations in BC elections.

This meant that developers could no longer call the shots so blatantly as they had in the past.

If you think I am over exaggerating the impact of these donations, just look at Visions public donation list from the years between 2008 and 2017. It speaks like a who's who of the architects of Vancouver's affordability crisis.

Again, you might think that I have a jaundice view, perhaps an overly cynical view of the past. Believe me, I have direct face to face experience with the Vision municipal juggernaut. I saw how individual CoV planners were ordered to ignore community input. At the same time, any developer could get any meeting with any city official for any reason. I am a veteran of one of the "community plans" that Vision Vancouver faked over the years and I know for a fact that they listened to precisely no one that wasn't filling their pockets.

Fast forward to the municipal by-election of October 2017.

This was one of the first major elections after the new BC election law and would be a critical test for the ruling juggernaut under these new conditions.

Vision put up a young new candidate Diego Cardona. He checked all the cynical boxes. He was young, he was an immigrant, he was progressive. How could he lose in lefty lefty Vancouver?
He also had the full weight of the Vision machine behind him.

The trouble was, the Vision machine no longer had their corporate developer donations to keep them afloat.
The trouble was that the people of Vancouver had ten years to learn that Vision had no intention of creating a livable city. They were laughing all the way to the bank and the voters smelled it.

Then, knowing they were in trouble... They tried to be too clever by half.

They were most afraid of a move from the left. If voters found out that there was an alternative on the left that would actually do something, then they knew they were toast.

Jean Swanson was a big favorite to win the open seat in this by-election.
She had a 40 year career fighting for causes in the downtown eastside (DTES) of Vancouver and now was one of the city's most outspoken and famous housing advocates.

For a city in the middle of a massive housing crisis, she was a natural choice.

In order to combat this, Vision launched and supported their own independent housing advocate to bleed away votes from Swanson.
Judy Graves, a municipal employee for years that oversaw Vision's failed homeless policy, was funded and supported and pushed to run by all the old Visionistas.

This was their plan...

Swanson and Graves would split the independent housing advocate vote, and Vision would triumph up the middle with their new star Diego.

Instead, NPA candidate Hector Bremner barely won over Jean Swanson with 27% versus 21% of the vote.

But for Vision's transparent antics, Swanson would have won this council seat handily.

Too Clever By Half.

Vision candidate Diego Cardona barely cracked the top 5 with 11% of the vote.

Vision had died as a political party, and they knew it.

Without their corporate donors they had no hope of an election victory in this traditionally left of centre city.

Too Clever By Half doesn't work.

Too Clever By Half will always turn off the smart voter.

Last night's municipal election was a prime example of NPA trying exactly the same tactics.

The most accurate pre-election polls showed NDP candidate Kennedy Stewart with 30-40% of the vote, NPA Ken Sim with around 20%, and Shauna Sylvester with around 10-15%.

Essentially, after Vision candidate Ian Campbell withdrew from the race in early September, the last of the moderate left had nowhere to go. Most of them chose Kennedy Stewart.

Now, lets look at NPA being too clever by half...

Shauna Sylvester is MORE left than Kennedy Stewart. No doubt about it. She criticized him for not going far enough in creating more social housing, and was clearly running a campaign to outflank him on the left.

So why did she get so much vocal NPA support?

That's right, you read this right... vocal NPA support.

Peter Ladner, mayor candidate for NPA in 2008 was at her victory party.
George Affleck (NPA councillor) kept singing her praises during the all day new coverage of the election.

Come on guys.  Do you really think the voters are that stupid?

Do you really think that the NPA which is diametrically opposed to Sylvester's policies would actually support such a candidate?

The more likely answer and much more sad and cynical is that the NPA realized that the only way they had a hope of winning was if the majority left vote was split between Sylvester and Stewart.

Too Clever By Half, NPA, Too Cleaver By Half.

Last night Kennedy Stewart narrowly won the 2018 Vancouver municipal election against an otherwise uninspiring and unpopular Ken Sim of the NPA.

If you add up the progressive left of centre votes in just the top three candidates, they beat the centre right by a mile.

The NPA needs to learn what Vision learned in the last by-election.

The voters of Vancouver are not so easily fooled.

Peter Ladner never supported Sylvester. Peter Ladner was sent in like a trojan horse by the NPA establishment to try and convince gullible voters that Sylvester had non-partisan appeal to bleed just enough votes away from Kennedy Stewart to allow a Ken Sim minority victory.

Too Clever By Half.

Pennsylvania puts Obama over the top

Obama can now achieve the needed 2024 delegate total and the race can end!!!
This is not possible for Clinton, and may not be for her even at the end of the race.

For those that are not number-delegate-nerds, I'll go through it.

Pledged delegate score is now:

Obama = 1494
Clinton = 1334

(give or take a few...)

Given that Obama also has at least 230 super delegates that have promised to vote for him, this puts his total delegates at over 1724.

Assuming that the remaining 'unclaimed' super delegates want to end the race (hint hint), they can now put Obama over the top without changing the vote of any of the super delegates that have pledged to Clinton.

There are about 305 or so super delegates that have not come out and supported either Obama or Clinton. This is enough to put him over the top and end the contest.

Why don't they move?

Obviously they are not interested in saving the Democratic Party.

Obviously they are not interested in defeating John McCain in the fall.

This should be the focus of the internal debate within Democratic circles.

More Magic Numbers for Obama

Just to continue the delegate battle debate, there are a few other magic numbers that we should consider as the race continues.

From a previous post, we repeat the first two, in order of difficulty:

1) 2024 pledged delegates - the number required to prevent superdelegates from overturning the win.

2) 1627 pledged delegates - the number required to prevent superdelegates from overturning the democratic results. This number will likely be achieved by the Obama campaign after Puerto Rico.

Now, there are a few more magic numbers that are important, assuming that we take the numbers of superdelegates from both campaigns as a starting point. This gives us Clinton with 242, and Obama with 210. Now, assuming that these delegates are solid, and this will become more true as the race progresses and gets more heated, we get two more numbers.

1.5) 1814 pledged delegates - the number required so that Obama only needs to hold his existing 210 superdelegates. This is likely not going to be achieved by the end of the race on June 3.

3) 1537 pledged delegates - the number required so that Obama only needs to get half of the remaining unassigned superdelegates. Obama will likely achieve this during the May primaries after Pennsylvania. These primaries, in order, are Guam then Indiana and North Carolina, then West Virginia then Kentucky and Oregon. If the campaign sets up the appropriate expectations in the press, it could be all over after North Carolina. North Carolina will likely put Obama over this number.

4) 1471 pledged delegates - the number required for Obama to go over the top without poaching Clintons existing 242 superdelegates. In other words, if Obama convinces all the rest of the superdelegates to vote for him and none of Clintons superdelegates move, he would have access to 553 superdelegates to put him over the top. It is possible that Obama could achieve this after Pennsylvania.

5) 1229 pledged delegates - the number required by either campaign to achieve 2024 by getting a unanimous decision by ALL the superdelegates. Both campaigns are already there. Both campaigns, ironically, went over the top on this number after the March 4th primaries. Since neither campaign can PREVENT the other campaign from achieving this number, there is no reason for either side to withdraw. In fact, it is a moot point because if one of the campaigns had enough to prevent the other side from getting this, they would be at 2025 anyway. The wonders of math.

Now, lets look at the timing of this thing.

Obama will likely achieve threshold 4) after Pennsylvania, but Clinton will not be able to say the same thing until after Kentucky and Oregon on May 20th. This give Obama almost a month to rub in the point that she can not win without my superdelegates, but I can win without hers. Clinton presently needs only 1439 for her threshold 4).

Now, after a few weeks of this, Obama will likely go over threshold 3) before Clinton crosses her threshold 4). This will be major bragging rights. Clinton will not be able to win without poaching his super delegates, but Obama can win with only HALF of the remaining superdelegates. This will be the period where Clinton will likely be forced to withdraw if there has not been a major change in the campaign landscape.

This crossover will likely be achieved for Obama after North Carolina.

So, this blogger so predicts, that the Clinton campaign will be forced to withdraw from the fight in the second week in May. This is assuming that Obama does not win Pennsylvania on April 22nd.

I guess the larger point of this blog is that the Democratic Party unwittingly created a complicated series of thresholds by adding in these crazy wild card superdelegates. Since we can not predict how they will behave at the convention, the only hard number that matters is 2024. The trouble is, that since the total number of pledged delegates is 3253 this is A LOT HARDER TO GET!!!

Basically, any candidate must get over 62% of all the pledged delegates in order to lock away the nomination before the convention. This can be compared to the Republican case where they only need to get 50%. This creates a smoother campaign, and a much easier process at the convention.

Wow.

Think of this in a historical context (and this is all from the wiki, by the way).

The first National Democratic convention was held in 1832. That is when they created the DISASTROUS 2/3 rule for the nomination process. Candidates had to get over 66% of the delegates, so it became really really hard to WIN the nomination, but really really easy to STOP someone from getting the nomination.

This rule was waved in the 1835 and 1840 conventions because it everyone realized that it was STUPID, and was brought back in 1844 by opponents of Van Buren, so that they could STOP HIM. So, the roots of this rule go way back in stopping the democratic will of Democratic party voters.

The crazy Democrats kept this stupid rule for the next hundred years. It was used, for example, to deadlock the 1924 convention and produce a compromise candidate that no one liked and lost huge to the Republicans that year. Starting to ring a bell?

They finally drop the 2/3 craziness in 1936 during the re-nomination of Roosevelt. Hmmm, seems to me that the Democrats won a lot of elections after that...

So, it seems, bad ideas die hard. The sneaky Democrats brought the rule back in another form after the chaos of the Seventees. Good job there. You really won a lot of general elections since then, losers. By creating these "superdelegates", that can not be pinned down until the convention, they force the prospective nominees to get over 62% of the elected delegates or essentially go to the convention hat in hand, begging for the good graces of the superdelegates to bestow legitimacy on the nominee.

What a crazy and self destructive system. In fact, it is a system that seems only good for the situation that we see before us now. The Democrats essentially have a winner, but the stupid convention rules create a system where his opponent will not drop out (because neither side can secure 62%), and he can not unite the party. This almost guarantees a weaker general election candidate, and a more likely loss in the general to the Republicans. Good one, guys.

DID A REPUBLICAN SPY WRITE YOUR CONVENTION RULES???

I'm even going to go one step further in making fun of the Democratic Party.

Lets consider the possibility that the Democrats made all their states winner take all. Would that solve their problem? No. Both sides would STILL not have 2024 EVEN THEN!!!

Obama would have only 1309, and Clinton would have a large lead at 1834. But the point is that even after winning all those big states, AND making them give ALL their delegates to Clinton with winner take all rules, she would still not be over the 2024 threshold. The Democrats have screwed themselves with these dumb superdelegates.

Big Time!

They almost guarantee a weak general election candidate if there is any contention in the primaries at all.

I reiterate a point from a previous post. If the Democrats can not unite behind Obama and win the general election, they should disband as a political party. At least Obama would have a chance of winning the nomination of the party that rises up to replace them.

Real Obama Momentum

I created this chart to show how overwhelming the Obama momentum has been since Super Tuesday.

The percentage of the remaining delegates that the Clinton Campaign must win has gone inexorably up since Super Tuesday. Here is the chart...

Puerto Rico Will Put Obama Over The Top

This is how it would go... if the democrats, or the Obama camp were smarter about spin right now. They could play it like this...

The real magic number is of pledged delegates 1627, not 2024. Here is why...

As is commonly held belief, the required number of delegates required in order to gain the democratic nomination and avoid a protracted convention or pre-convention fight, is 2024. Since the number of pledged delegates is 3253, and the number of superdelegates is 794 the grand total voting members of the convention is 4047. By conventional theory, 2024 is over half the total number of delegates, thus guaranteeing that the superdelegates can not rob this side of the nomination. But this is only in the case of a scenario where the pledged delegates may be at odds with the tendencies of the superdelegates.

But lets not think that way. Lets think of it as a real democratic contest. A contest where only the pledged delegates matter and the superdelegates understand the risk of overturning the convention majority. In this case, the real number of pledged delegates necessary to ensure this majority would be over half of 3253, or 1627. In this case, the superdelegates would have to overturn the will of the majority of the pledged delegates in order to prevent this candidate from getting the nomination. Lets take it on faith that this would only be done in the case of extreme circumstances like a crazy surprise that makes the candidate's viability doubtful. In the case of Clinton, this could be her tax returns, in the case of Obama, it could be a number of things.

Since the Obama campaign has so far accumulated 1385 pledged delegates (by their count, 1321 according to CNN, 1366 according to MSNBC and Reuters) he needs a total of 242 (or slightly more) in order to achieve this majority.

This the magic number that the Obama camp should be talking about.

1627 is the real number for victory being assured (virtually) at the convention in August. This will likely be won by the Obama campaign after the Puerto Rico Primary on June 1st.

Thus, Obama will get an extra two months, from June to the convention to hit McCain and the republicans. This is far superior to the alternative which is a convention fight.

1627 for victory!!!

The Democratic Party Should Disband

For once in my life, I find myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson.

On his show today, he said something that I have been thinking for quite some time.

Here it is.

If the Democratic Party can't win the election this year, shouldn't they just pack it up and go home?

He's right.

With supposedly the worst president in history leaving office, and his now-admitted successor as the nominee of the Republican Party, the Democrats are finding new ways everyday to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

With the now interminable leadership campaign sucking all the money and enthusiasm out of the most ardent supporters, by the time they actually choose a leader they are ensuring that they have battered them to the point of being useless.

Good job Democrats.

What is wrong with you?

You are blowing it again, and the country will not forgive you forever!

Math is too hard for MSNBC

Just to keep on this point.

MSNBC has still not gotten back to me on this, and I have no evidence that they intend to ever correct their error, or learn how to count.

The issue was not lost on the people from ABC. They, it seems can do math, even if their friends at MSNBC can not.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3445514&page=1

They noted right away that Obama would be 47 if he was inaugurated and would be the FIFTH youngest president not third FIFTH. OLDER THAN BILL CLINTON.

Got it, MSNBC? FIFTH youngest!!!

MSNBC, SHAME ON YOU

It seems that the fine people at the MSNBC news desk are incapable of doing math.

Not, Chuck Todd, of course... his delegate math is impeccable.

I'm talking about something much simpler, and much easier to check.

This is the issue of Barack Obama's age.

On 11:26 AM PST (2:26 EST - notice the quick math there) on MSNBC on this day of February 29th, Contessa Brewer gave a nice little story about how age does not matter for the presidency.

75% of respondents said that John McCain was not too old to be president.
80% of respondents said that Barack Obama was not too young to be president.

Great. What a nice little story. I'm so warm and fuzzy now.

The trouble is that miss Brewer went on to say that Barack Obama would be the third youngest president in history. The third youngest after Teddy Roosevelt and JFK. What?

Really?

Really, MSNBC people?

Can you look things up? Can you do math?

Can you reliably calculate a persons age? Can you get your friend to help?

Can you remember ancient history as long ago as 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected as our nation's third youngest president at the age of 46!!!

Barack Obama will be 47 if he is elected president.

Hmmm.

OK, I'll stop rubbing it in, but this is a major issue because of the Bill Clinton "rolling the dice" comment.

BARACK OBAMA WILL BE OLDER THAN BILL CLINTON WHEN HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT.

OK, I'll say it again.

BARACK OBAMA WILL BE OLDER THAN BILL CLINTON WHEN HE WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT.

This is important only because of the attacks that Bill and Hillary have leveled against Barack regarding his age and supposed inexperience.

Barack Obama will be the Fifth youngest president. oh, and MSNBC, the list goes like this...

1. Theodore Roosevelt, 42 and 322 days
2. John F. Kennedy, 43 and 236 days
3. Bill Clinton, 46 and 154 days
4. Ulysses S. Grant, 46 and 236
5. Barack Obama - possibly, 47 and 169 days
6. Grover Cleveland...


The fact that Barack Obama will be older than Bill Clinton is significant, and should be corrected before the Texas and Ohio primaries.

Oh, and get your damn act together. Most people trust you and will repeat tidbits like this as if they are fact. Seriously. This is not OK.

Super Delegate List Number One

It struck me that the super delegates are getting a lot of attention of late. It also struck me that - aside from a handful of the them - I had no idea who they were.
Well... after a few minutes of web surfing (yes its sad, we all get all our information this way don't we?) I found a reasonable verifiable list.

The list can be found at
http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/superdelegate-list.html

The lead right now for Clinton over Obama is approximately 80 or so. Now, the Clinton strength is clearly in Arkansas, New York and California, but it includes many areas that seem to be places where pressure could be brought to bare. Here is a brief list of District of Columbia super delegates that are for the Clinton candidacy...

DNC Mary Eva Candon (DC)

DNC Yolanda Caraway (DC)

DNC Hartina Flournoy (DC)

DNC Harold Ickes (DC)

DNC Ben Johnson (DC)

DNC Eric Kleinfeld (DC)

DNC Minyon Moore (DC)

DNC Elizabeth Smith (DC)

DNC Marilyn Tyler Brown (DC)

Is everyone here on this list still positive that Hillary Clinton would make the best general election candidate? Even given the 50 point trouncing that Obama took in the DC primary?

Clinton People are Bushian Liars

I can not believe the rhetoric that I am hearing out of the Clinton camp these days.

It reminds me of the kind of crap that comes out of the Bush White House. It really does.
They make arguments that are so obviously partisan and unfair and hope that people don't care about facts since they are just supporting the candidate anyway. Its bullshit. Plain and simple.

Hilary Rosen comes on Hardball today and actually argues that there is some kind of moral equivalence to the Florida/Michigan debate, and the debate over super delegates.

I've seldom heard more self serving fact-ignoring crap out of anyone outside of the Bush administration.

1) Florida and Michigan were ruled by the DNC to have their delegates revoked. This is a fact.

2) The candidates agreed not to campaign in these states and agreed that they would not count.

3) Hillary gets behind, wins the false contests, and wants to change the rules.

Simple as simple gets.

Now, lets look at the super delegate debate.

The Obama campaign has never advocated changing the rules. They have never said the the delegates should 'have' to do anything. They were merely outlining the possible political backlash (which should be obvious to everyone) if they overturn the will of the primary voters. This is just a statement of fact.

The Hillary campaign is a dishonest group of spinning liars.

That being said, I do remember Obama saying that if McCain was nominated that he would take public funding if McCain did. I think that he should honor this commitment. It would not handicap him substantially and would make the race more interesting.

The Imprimatur

Imprimatur - noun
1. an official license to print or publish a book, pamphlet, etc., esp. a license issued by a censor of the Roman Catholic Church.
2. sanction or approval; support.

After a brief hiatus from blogging, I finally find the need again to add to the debate. In an effort at full disclosure, I have been disgusted at the discourse that has evolved in the Democratic race and was so angry that I felt it wise to hold my keyboard. I'm glad. The things that I would have said in the last few days would have not been responsible toward the Clintons. That being said, I will proceed.

Today, in an editorial in the New York Times, Caroline Kennedy endorsed Barack Obama for President. Here is the final paragraph and inspiring finish to her piece:

"I have never had a president who inspired me the way people tell me that my father inspired them. But for the first time, I believe I have found the man who could be that president — not just for me, but for a new generation of Americans - Barack Obama."

Today Maureen Dowd, a columnist for the New York Times was on Meet the Press with Tim Russert and said "I think this is huge... this is very much like the moment that Bill Clinton pushed when he shook JFKs hand at Boys Nation. The Clinton campaign made that the Arthurian moment where Galahad took the sword out of the stone. Now Caroline has done that for Obama but its a real moment because she is saying 'you are like my father'. After decades of politicians pretending to be like JFK, and Gary Hart chopping his hand and Dan Quayle trying to act like he was JFK she is giving him the Imprimatur and I think its huge."

It was her term used to describe Obama's new legitimate claim to the Kennedy dream and the Kennedy legacy. After weeks of the Clintons trying to cut down this new national hero, here is the first family of Democratic politics - in effect - giving Obama the reverse of the Dan Quayle moment. The Kennedy clan is saying effectively "We knew Jack Kennedy and this man is the closest thing we have to Jack Kennedy." If Senator Edward Kennedy gives his endorsement on Monday this will be the full weight of the surviving Kennedy clan effectively telling the Clintons that they are wrong - that this new political phenomenon is the real thing.

This is why I wanted to lead with this term. Imprimatur - a latin term not often used in english conversation - it hearkens to the Old English prose of Camelot, and reinforces the weight and profundity of a clan that still leads the ideological heart of the Democratic party.

Will the Clintons dare sully this new vision? A new grass roots movement that carries with it the real dream of a new Camelot?
They should do with the full knowledge that the core of the party is rapidly losing patience with them.

I have long believed that the Democratic party establishment support for Hillary Clinton was always soft. They were not so much in love with her, but in hope of winning the White House. They knew that this couple could win, and they were willing to hold their noses in order to prevent another Republican president. As the tide of red state endorsements for Obama grows, will the support of the establishment, or the super delegates be sustained? This blogger thinks there is a chance that it will not.

There is no denying that Barack Obama represents something new and powerful in the country, yet the Clintons are hell bent on painting him as something old and failed. They compare him to Jesse Jackson - a black candidate that Al Gore and Dukakis both mercilessly tried to pigeon hole as a single constituency candidate with no real chance of winning. They mock the comparison to Dr. Martin Luther King by lowering King's achievements and saying that he 'needed a president - Johnson - to pass the legislation. The code they are using is not subtle and not vailed. What they are saying is 'slow down', 'wait your turn', 'we'll take care of you'. The implication is that two white folks are better suited to take care of black interests than a black candidate. I expect this language from the old Dixiecrats, or the Republicans not the new Democratic party. It is a shameful testimony to the Clintons that they would stoop to this level in order to win, and the rage - if my friends are any measure - is spreading like wild fire. You can't just do anything to win, this is a democracy and you need to deserve to win. Right now, the Clintons deserve to be served up a round of eye opening defeats.

In the two states that Barack Obama has won so far he has done so with an overwhelming turnout, and an overwhelming turnout in traditional Republican states - Iowa and South Carolina. In the two states that he lost, he lost narrowly and with a strong wide coalition of voters. He has attracted record numbers of young people to the process, and has raised money from a bigger coalition of Americans than any campaign has acheived - ever.

In Iowa, as in South Carolina, Hillary Clinton would have won if the turnout was what it was in 2004. She won 140,000 votes in South Carolina and in 2004 the total turnout was 290,000. The trouble is that Barack Obama has changed the game. Barack Obama convinced a record number of blacks and young people to come out and vote. He won more votes than the ENTIRE democratic turnout in 2004!!

If he can do this in the general election - atleast 5-6 red states on the border and in the south are now in play. The Democratic party CAN NOT turn this down. If they do, they deserve another decade of defeats.

Hope is real. Hope drives people to volunteer. Hope drives people to vote. Hope wins elections.

Ed Muskie in a Pantsuit?

In the tradition of hearing beautiful lines from the political pundits and elaborating on them, I'll continue with this little gem I heard today on Meet the Press.

Mike Murphy, long time Republican political consultant - and former adviser to John McCain said on the show that "If she loses here [New Hampshire], she turns into Ed Muskie in a pantsuit".

This and awesome analogy, and I'd like to comment on it.

The year was 1972. The Democratic party was hungry for a win against the lying war mongering imperial presidency of Richard M. Nixon.

The favorite for the nomination was, overwhelmingly Ed Muskie. He had been on the ticket in 1968 and with strong Democratic credentials, he assumed that it was his turn to be at the top of the ticket.

The primary system was in its infancy, and he had never competed in one.

A dark horse candidate by the name of George McGovern, Senator from South Dakota, challenged him in Iowa and lost to Muskie. They then went on to New Hampshire and Muskie won there as well, but by a very small margin.

Muskie was so surprised by the enthusiasm of the McGovern campaign that his effort dissolved quickly thereafter.

Muskie was never heard from again in a major race in the National Democratic party.

Why I can't resist having hope

Until now, I've resisted putting much personal information into this blog.

I'm not sure why, perhaps I wanted to maintain an impartial distance. Now that this distance is clearly out the window, I feel like my story, or the story of my family has brought here me to this place in a way that has made my recognition of this new movement and my participation in it inescapable.

My father was Irish, born in Dublin, Ireland. At the age of three, his father went to Burma as an engineer. At this young age, he was evacuated from Burma to escape the advancing Japanese forces, and grew to 10 years old living in Shimla, India. He finished his studies at Trinity College and went to Canada for graduate school as a PhD candidate in Physics in the early sixties. After a brief post-doctoral stint in California, where he met my mother, he went back to Canada and began a career in physics. The year was 1965.

My mother was born in New Caledonia, and came to California at the age of 10. Speaking french as a first language, she felt out of place as a teenager on the west coast in the fifties.

When my parents made the decision to move to Canada in 1965, politics was not a small part of the decision for them. I have read many of the letters my father wrote to my mother during this time, and the Kennedy assassination, the rise of militarism and escalation in Vietnam were subjects that they talked about, and made them like the United States less than their alternative, Canada.

As a child, I really did not understand this. I questioned why they would allow this to influence their decision making, and why they wouldn't choose to live in such a cool place like California.

It wasn't until I came here myself, as a graduate student in Physics at Stanford, that I started to understand.

Despite moving here during the Clinton years, I was struck by how apolitical and apathetic most Americans were. It was as if the thought of change and the hope for responsible government was a myth that existed in ancient times.

I have studied history my entire life, and this movement that I'm witnessing now has not happened in 40 years.

I walk down the street and people are talking about politics, and they're excited about it.

People actually are allowing themselves to believe that something might change and that government might actually speak to them and not the rich or the interest groups.

This is an enormous thing that Barack Obama is doing right now.

It is so earth shaking that the real effects of this will not be realized for 10 or 20 years.

Living in the United States for almost 20 years now, I have never been tempted to give up my Canadian citizenship.

If Barack Obama wins the Presidency, I would consider it.

Where is she going to hide the body?

Sometimes there is a line in the days news that just can't be ignored.
I love it.

Chris Matthews, a favorite of mine, was talking to a table of pundits regarding the upcoming Clinton/Obama showdown. Faced with the statement that Hillary could lose New Hampshire and still soldier on challenging Obama for the nomination, he issued a question that summed up the central issue of the Democratic party from now on.

Where will she hide the body?

If Clinton continues to challenge, and possibly beat this energetic young transformative figure, how will the party survive?

How will she convince Obama to go back to being the junior senator from Illinois?

Pat Buchanan uttered it in another way. He said "she could still win, but she'd have to steal it from the kid - and that kind of fight can destroy a party."

She won't convince his growing army to vote for her in the general. That much is assured. Logically, then so will be her loss to another Republican.

Even if the Democratic party does not yet know it, this is the choice that it now has in front of it.

1) Move forward and embrace the Obama Revolution or,

2) Shrink back, retreat, and lose another election out by nominating another party insider.

We'll see.

The contest in Iowa has gone a long way, I hope, of convincing rank and file Democrats in the other 49 states that Obama can win.

Now, can the Democrats convince themselves that they want to win?

Obama Wins in Clinton County

OK, maybe that title is too clever by half. I'll try not to gloat.
The truth is, in Clinton County Iowa, Obama took 37% of the vote to Clinton's 33%.

Symbolic? Maybe.

Although the Clinton camp will try and trample on this victory in the next few days... they have to in order to salvage a prayer of winning New Hampshire, there are a few salient figures that should be mentioned.

1) Turn out - It is possible that turn out could be up as much as 85% as compared to 2004. Possibly 230,000 Democrats, Independents, and Republicans caucused as Democrats tonight handed Obama his victory. If this can be maintained in the general, this is a game changing strategy and will put half of the red states in play against the Republicans.

2) Women - Despite Hillary's appeal to older women, women as a whole supported Obama by 57%.

3) Young People - There was a youth vote this year, and it supported Obama by 46% to 17% for Hillary

4) Independents - 20% of the turn out were independent voters and without them, Obama's win would be only a point or two.

Together, these facts not only destroy the Clintonian claim of inevitability, but also to electability. Obama now clearly owns the electability crown. Through solid political organizing techniques that he honed as an organizer in the streets of Chicago, he is well on his way to winning this thing.

This is a historic day for American Politics. The final Iowa results are

Obama - 38%
Edwards - 30%
Clinton - 29%

My prediction some weeks ago was not that far off. I predicted the correct order of candidates, but the bunching of Clinton and Edwards is tighter than I thought it would be. Obama's win was also larger than I thought it would be.

An African American is now the leading contender to win the Presidency of the United States.

Barack Obama is the Leader of the Seventh Party System

Sometimes the tide of history is inescapable.

Sometimes the need for change is so overwhelming that it infuses the very soul of a nation and propels a new crop of political heroes into leadership.

When the political arguments of an older generation must yield to the new concerns and new problem solving methods of a newer generation, we call this a shift of the political landscape.

In the United States, very regularly, there have been many of these shifts. Political scientists have created a naming scheme for these shifts - called the Party Systems. Depending on who you ask, there have either been Five or Six of them in all of American History.

From the first Presidency in 1789 to the election of 1824, the United States existed in a political regime now known as the First Party System. Presidents were exclusively chosen from the Revolutionary War generation, political parties were regularized, newspapers were exclusively in the hands of politicians, and the country was developing its nascent foreign policy with respect to the European Powers.

This era ended when the Federalist party ceased to be a political force, and the Democratic-Republicans split between Jackson and Clay during the contentious 1824 election. This was the first election that did not feature a Revolutionary War veteran (Jackson was an 1812 veteran), and was bitterly disputed. The election was thrown to the house of representatives, and John Quincy Adams (not the winner of the popular vote - this was Jackson) was elected. This divisive election framed the battles of the future where the Whigs (the party of the rich with no clear policy on slavery) battled the Jacksonian Democrats (expansionist frontier oriented). The period lasted from 1837 to 1852, leading to the Third Party System and the lead up to the Civil War.

The Third Party System is commonly thought to have existed between 1854 and 1896. It was marked by the upheaval of the Civil War and the terror ridden reconstruction era. The Republican Party rose to replace the Whigs with their traditional pro-business constituency, but took a clear stand against slavery. This new party eventually out-muscled every other party in the developed north and commanded a majority of the electoral votes - so that in 1860 it sowed the seeds of the Civil War. After the war, American politics was dominated by reconstruction politics with Civil War Veterans dominating the debate.

Williams Jennings Bryan, the brilliant populist orator, altered politics-as-usual again with his triumphant loss to McKinley in the election of 1896. This Fourth Party System is generally referred to as the Progressive Era and was dominated by domestic issues and populist politics. Although Bryan was never elected President, he maintained control the Democratic Party for years. During this period, Theodore Roosevelt, a veteran of the Spanish American War became a prominent reformer and populist in the Republican Party. The Republican Party dominated the presidential elections in this period.

The Fifth Party System began with the election of FDR after the failure of the pro-business Republican Party to deal with the Great Depression. It ushered in a period of dominance for the Democratic Party in presidential elections - they won 7 of the next 9 contests. This period is commonly referred to as the New Deal Period and was marked by a dramatic increase in social programs and government spending. The Democratic majority was secure due to the Solid South that was broken by the Civil Rights Bill and Nixons southern strategy. The contentious election year of 1968, and the failure of the Democratic Party to deal with the Vietnam War (or, as some would argue, the Cold War in General) marked the end of this period.

From 1968 to 2004 the Republican party won 7 of 10 presidential elections. Until the election of 1992, politics was largely dominated by veterans of WWII, and was largely fought on cold war issues. Republican dominance was largely the result of a coalition between the pro-business, strong defense, and social conservatives. The southern strategy began by Nixon was cemented by Reagan and led to the creation of a new Solid South in the hands of the Republicans. By the time of the elections of '00 and '04, the winner of the electoral college was determined by a handful of swing states such as Florida, Ohio and Missouri. The transitional period (and there is some debate about the dates here) began with the election of Clinton in '92 and saw the re-invention of the Democratic Party as a force capable of combating this new Republican majority. The Presidency of George W. Bush contributed to the collapse of the Reagan coalition and led to the landmark election of 2008.

The contentious election of 2000 will be regarded as the beginning of the end of the Sixth Party System. The election of 2008 may be regarded as the beginning of the Seventh Party System.

Here is a brief prediction of what will characterize this new period in American Politics.

1) The Democratic Party will dominate presidential elections for 30 years. This is not simply looking at the natural seesaw of history, but also some of the underlying problems within the Republican Party. The traditional Reagan coalition is broken, and all three factions are now openly vying for control of the party. Romney represents the business wing, Huckabee represents the social wing, and McCain or Giuliani represent the defense wing. Just as in 1968 for the Democratic Party, this open warfare will create lasting divisions in the party and will characterize their internal debates for years.

First Party System - ?
Second Party System - Democratic Republicans
Third Party System - Republicans
Fourth Party System -Republicans
Fifth Party System - Democrats
Sixth Party System - Republicans
Seventh Party System - ?

2) The Republican Party will fragment into the Social, Defense, and Fiscal wings that comprised the Reagan coalition (or as George Will recently called the Great Fusion).

3) The Democratic Party will increasingly be seen as pro-business in a climate of increasing emphasis on environmentalism and energy independence. The Democratic Party is now the only party poised to deal with the dominant issue of the time.

In every transition period, a major party loses power because it can not cope with the dominant issue that is driving the electorate.

The Fourth System ended with the Great Depression -> New Deal (Fifth System)
The Third System ended with the economic crisis of 1890s -> Progressive Period
The Second System ended with the slavery crisis -> End of Slavery, Reconstruction

What is the dominant issue of our time? Is it terrorism? I argue not. This is a symptom of western dominance in the middle east due to our energy policy.

The dominant issue of our time is our dependence on oil and the destructive foreign policy that this creates. If we wait one generation to tackle this problem, oil may very well be $300 a barrel. If we wait one generation to tackle this problem, the planet may not be able to recover from Global Warming. If we wait one generation to tackle this problem, the United States may go bankrupt defending its traditional sources of energy.

Every change in Party Systems is marked by a generational shift.

The Sixth System was dominated by veterans of WWII and in the transitional period, Vietnam veterans.
The Fourth System was dominated by Spanish American War veterans.
The Third System was dominated by Civil War veterans.
The Second System was dominated by veterans of the War of 1812
The First System was dominated by Revolutionary War veterans


Barack Obama is the new face of leadership of the Seventh Party System. This much is now abundantly clear to me. He is unmarred by the 'food fights' of the Vietnam Era, and he is neither a veteran of WWII (last one was Dole in '96) nor a Vietnam veteran or draft dodger (Clinton, Gore, Bush, Kerry).

The change that he talks about - the end to grid lock, the end of special interest lobbyists, a practical non-partisan approach is the siren song of this new period in American Politics. The Democratic Party will dominate presidential politics during this period but its policies will be marked by non-partisan practical problem solving.

Barack Obama is the leader of this new Period in American History.

In the final days: Remember that the They is You

Whatever happens in Iowa this year, the Barack Obama campaign has changed American politics.

An African-American is running as a healing, centrist, anti-war candidate amid two traditional left wing panderers.

At this point, I'd like to take a moment to reflect on what the experience has taught me about this country.

As the race has progressed over the summer and fall, I heard many things that both inspired me about the character of this land, and heard other things that came close to dashing my hopes.

I made a point of asking many people about Obama and trying to get their honest opinion. What I heard from people that were not politically informed was curious, hopeful and sometimes disheartening.

Many said that they liked him. Many said that it would be great to see a principled man like him in the White House.

Quite often though, the statement I got was "He's great, but they'll never let a black man become president".

At first, I was shocked. I didn't know what to think. Was this a way of hiding latent racist fears and using "Them" to excuse the statement? Maybe, maybe not. More often than not this statement came from African-Americans. So what did it mean...? That the hopes of a group of people have been so systematically dashed over the ages that hoping itself is almost nonexistent? Perhaps.

My only response to this kind of sentiment is that there is no "They" unless you create them. Last time I checked, we still live in a democracy. Last time I checked, if you pull the lever, or raise your hand at a caucus, they MUST count you.

My only response is that if you let the fear, or a concept of "They" determine your actions, or prevent you from being counted then you are the "They". You have created your own nightmare and you deserve the government and society that you get.

This does not apply to any single cultural group. It applies to all of us. It applies to the college students that still have a glimmer of hope, but might just need to see the Orange bowl that day. It applies to the liberal anti-war couple in Iowa that decides its cool to vote for Kucinich despite any rational strategic thought. It applies to the Reagan Democrat that knows they will stay at home rather than voting for a Republican or a tragic pander-bear the Democrats keep throwing at them. It applies to everyone that allowed themselves to imagine a new era of government, or at the very least, a new face of America to the world but couldn't get of the couch because they didn't believe that "They" would ever let it happen.

THE "THEY" IS YOU IF YOU GIVE UP

THE "THEY" IS YOU IF YOU DON'T VOTE

Hillary Humphrey Clinton

This is what the Democratic Party needs to come to terms with.

This is what is wrong with the American Left.

The year was 1968.
America was choosing a candidate to change the direction of the country and deal with the increasingly unpopular war. The nation was psychically pummeled by the string of assassinations, Martin Luther King, Bobby Kennedy, and others. The Democratic party was torn between its moderate left/conciliatory roots (conciliation with the Dixiecrats) due to the civil rights movement and the passage of the civil rights bill. Its greatest hope - to unite the party, end the war, and return to responsible government was snuffed out by the same faceless cabal that killed his brother 5 years earlier.

What did the party do?

It nominated a timid, pandering 'my turn' candidate by the name of Hubert Humphrey.

The rest is history. Richard Nixon began a dynasty of Republican presidents that shut the door on the Kennedy dream forever.

The Democratic party ran from its ideals and has been running ever since.

Hillary Clinton would be a wonderful addition to this string of pandering, calculating, establishment placating politicians.

How long will the string of defeats continue? How long can a country starving for a leader resort out of fear to the compromise language of failure? A lot longer, I fear.

I am also positive that if it continues, this country of great enlightened founders will cease to be a beacon of hope or an origin of dreams for this planet.

But who is really to blame for this? The cabal that executed a successful coop in 1963? or a naive and irresponsible left who refused to continue pushing the ideas that would inspire hope in successive generations. An American left that went home or started wasting their vote because they no longer had a movie star leader to inspire them.

Humphrey failed, not in small part, due to the failure of the anti-war idealists to support him, despite his lack of conviction on the greatest moral failure of that generation.

Al Gore lost, not in small part, due to the record number of Democratic voters that abandoned him for a former consumer advocate.

Jimmy Carter lost, not in small part, due to the rebellion of the left of his party - embodied by the last vestigial Kennedy mounting a selfish attempt to live up to his name.

The American Left is the problem. Having failed to take over the Democratic party, despite the reforms and primary systems initiated in the 1970s, they have selfishly eaten their young and handed that party a historic string of defeats. This has turned them into a bitter, paranoid defeatist group of complainers that no one takes seriously.

Now, in this modern age where reform, openness, and responsive government are now a matter of life and death - not just for American Troops but for the planet as a whole - the supposed beacon of this pathetic movement, The Nation Magazine chooses to endorse Dennis Kucinich.

Why don't you just endorse Rudy Giuliani, or Romney, or Huckabee?

Katrina Vanden Heuval - WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I have one more addition to this post, and then I will calm down and relax.

When Obama started his run, everyone in the press was building him up so they could tear him down.

Is he the new Kennedy? Bobby or John F.?
Is he Martin Luther King? Is he as great as we need him to be?

This was the fundamentally wrong question. This is same question that has destroyed the Democratic party as a force for idealogical change.

The question everyone should be asking, and should have been asking was "Is the Democratic party the same as it was? Will they self destruct using the same basic play that they've been executing since 1968?"

Will they, as before, demand perfection as an excuse for abandoning hope?

A Game of Seconds

There has been much written about the horse race in Iowa.
Here is another brief analysis of current polls taking into account the second choices for the various candidates.

First, the raw initial poll numbers:

Obama - 28.3%
Clinton - 28.3%
Edwards 23.2%

If the Iowa Caucuses finished like this, it would be a dead heat between Obama and Clinton with Edwards finishing third, and likely out of the race. These numbers are from the website www.realclearpolitics.com where multiple polls over the same time period are averaged. The numbers above represent an average of 6 polls all with a margin of error of approx. 4-5%. If we assume that the methods used for the 6 different polls were identical, we may estimate a margin of error of about 2% for the average numbers above. This clearly places Edwards behind the leading two contenders outside the margin of error.

Now, lets take into account the second choices of the Iowa voters to estimate the real outcome of the voting process (ignoring of course, the real intangibles that may happen at voting time).

Adding up the numbers above, we see that about 80% (79.8%) of the Iowa voters will vote for the top three candidates as their first choice. This leaves 20% (20.2%) that will be forced to vote for their second choice or go home.

This is where it gets hard.

If the distribution of votes is not equal among the various polling stations, the number forced to vote for their second choice will increase. Also, a number of voters may go home and not vote for their second choice at all. In the absence of any data regarding this, we assume that the two factors will be a wash, and on average 20% of the electorate will have to vote for their second choice.

Recent polling data for second choices among the top tier candidates are as follows.

Edwards - 22.7%
Obama - 20.1%
Clinton - 13.8%

If these numbers hold, Edwards gets a 4.6% bounce, Obama gets a 4.1% bounce, and Clinton gets a 2.8% bounce. This leads to an estimate of final results as follows.

Obama - 32.4%
Clinton - 31.1%
Edwards - 27.8%

This gives the win to Obama. Is this enough of a margin to claim victory?

We shall see.

With the recent endorsement of the Nashua Telegraph going to Obama, coupled with one earlier from the Boston Globe, the Obama campaign may have all it needs to take two quick wins in a row.

Up is Down and Down is Up for Hillary

Up is down and down is up - and this is a good thing.

There have been a lot of comparisons so far this season regarding comparisons between the 2008 election year and others, notably 1968, 1972, and 1992.

I'm sure this won't be the last.

If you don't remember a popular refrain from the 1992 campaign issued by Clinton and Gore many times, I'll repeat it.

"Unemployment is up, New housing starts are down, Poverty is up, Income is down, Bankruptcies are up, Consumer confidence is down. Everything that is up should be down, they've got it upside down, and we want to turn it right side up again."

We have the same phenomenon right now in the Democratic primary fights, the difference is that upside down this time is a good thing.

Let me elaborate.

When this campaign between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton started to heat up this fall, the Clinton Group wanted to make the choice about "Experience" vs. "Naivete".

Barack Obama has turned this around, by highlighting Clinton's war and Iran votes, by making it about "Judgement". He had the judgment to oppose the war from the beginning and this trumps all the experience in the world. He also reminds voters that Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had more experience than anyone - and look where that has gotten us.

Hillary Clinton chooses now to accentuate the fact that she is "tested and ready", and by comparison Barack Obama is untested and - as her husband would say "a roll of the dice". But look who is looking like an amateur on the campaign stage? Look who is changing her message day to day to appear: soft, strong; likable, tough; experienced, open to change? It is Hillary Clinton that is looking over-handled, and shaky when it comes to defining a consistent message about who she is and where she will take the country.

Now lets turn to electability...
This is the real kicker.
Since spring Hillary Clinton has been claiming that she is more electable than any other Democrat in the race. This is despite the high negatives she has and the obvious fact that Republicans are chomping at the bit to run against her. In fact, as it has been said by David Ignatius and others that Hillary Clinton is that last thing that has a hope of actually uniting the fractured Republican party.

To further prove this point, lets look at some recent NBC polls on the issue.

Clinton 46% - Giuliani 43%
Clinton 46% - Huckabee 44%

A close race by any measure, and even more striking when one considers that a generic Democrat wins 46%/36% over a generic Republican (Rasmussen Dec 14). The data unmistakably shows that more Republicans are energized to vote AGAINST Hillary Clinton than they would if facing a generic Democrat.

By contrast, here are the Barack Obama numbers from the same poll.

Obama 49% - Giuliani 40%
Obama 48% - Huckabee 36%

These numbers show a rout by comparison. Obama does better than a generic Democrat and Guiliani and Huckabee remain near the baseline for the generic Republican candidate.

My larger point is that everything Hillary Clinton is running on is a falsehood. She is NOT the most tested candidate - Obama has more elected experience than her. She is NOT the candidate with better judgment. She is NOT the one that knows better how to fight the Republicans.

If the reader has any doubt on this issue, I refer them to a brilliant article by Mark Schmitt on the nuts and bolts of Obama's political genius: "The theory of Change Primary"
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=the_theory_of_change_primary

To complete my blog, I will return briefly to the issue of the Reagan Democrats.

My assertion of yesterday was confirmed on Meet the Press this morning by John Harwood when he recounted a story: "I was with an old school friend recently, classic Reagan Democrat, works in the auto body business, had a copy of the Lou Dobbs book 'War on the Middle Class' on his kitchen table. And he said 'You know, I've been voting Republican for years but I've decide that they're for the rich, I'm sick of the Republicans. And I said 'oh, so you're prepared to vote for Hillary Clinton? And he said 'Never'. There are millions of people like that - how they decide this could impact whats going to happen in the general election".

This is a very telling quote because it confirms my feeling, talking to my friends, and what I have learned by talking to voters in California and Nevada.

Barack Obama is the obvious electable choice against any generic Republican.